Sign Relations • Discussion 1

Thus, if a sunflower, in turning towards the sun, becomes by that very act fully capable, without further condition, of reproducing a sunflower which turns in precisely corresponding ways toward the sun, and of doing so with the same reproductive power, the sunflower would become a Representamen of the sun.

— C.S. Peirce, Collected Papers, CP 2.274

Re: Cybernetic CommunicationsKlaus Krippendorff
Re: Ecology of Systems ThinkingRichard Saunders

I’m working at reviewing and revising some pieces I’ve rewritten two score times over the last … lost count of years … and that bit from Peirce is one of my favorite epigraphs for the work ahead.  But I take it as an allegorical figure whose purpose is to illustrate a certain form of relation, and not to be taken too literally.  So I’m sympathetic to the reactions of several readers who find it clangs a bit if taken at face value.  I think there are clues in the passage, the hypothetical subjunctive construction, the unnatural qualification, “without further condition”, etc., telling us Peirce did not intend it as a truth of botany.  But taken rightly it does point to the shape of a proper definition to come.  So I’ll be getting to that …


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5 Responses to Sign Relations • Discussion 1

  1. Jeb says:

    I like it, familiar with it in other forms.  Peirce’s terms don’t tip of the tongue, only thing that clangs.  But it’s an older poetic form of language.  “Lyke unto a dumb solsequium” Old Scots song.

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