The Difference That Makes A Difference That Peirce Makes : 28

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I had to go back and remind myself why I took up this thread again, but at least it supplies a lot of material for future study on the difficulties of communicating across paradigms.

At this point it seems worth adding to the record a few exhibits on Peirce’s definition of logic as “formal semiotic” and his variant description of logic as “semiotic, the quasi-necessary, or formal, doctrine of signs”.

Here are two variants of a paragraph where Peirce defines logic as “formal semiotic”.

Selections from C.S. Peirce, “Carnegie Application” (1902)

No. 12.  On the Definition of Logic

Logic will here be defined as formal semiotic.  A definition of a sign will be given which no more refers to human thought than does the definition of a line as the place which a particle occupies, part by part, during a lapse of time.  Namely, a sign is something, A, which brings something, B, its interpretant sign determined or created by it, into the same sort of correspondence with something, C, its object, as that in which itself stands to C.  It is from this definition, together with a definition of “formal”, that I deduce mathematically the principles of logic.  I also make a historical review of all the definitions and conceptions of logic, and show, not merely that my definition is no novelty, but that my non-psychological conception of logic has virtually been quite generally held, though not generally recognized.  (NEM 4, 20–21).

No. 12.  On the Definition of Logic [Earlier Draft]

Logic is formal semiotic.  A sign is something, A, which brings something, B, its interpretant sign, determined or created by it, into the same sort of correspondence (or a lower implied sort) with something, C, its object, as that in which itself stands to C.  This definition no more involves any reference to human thought than does the definition of a line as the place within which a particle lies during a lapse of time.  It is from this definition that I deduce the principles of logic by mathematical reasoning, and by mathematical reasoning that, I aver, will support criticism of Weierstrassian severity, and that is perfectly evident.  The word “formal” in the definition is also defined.  (NEM 4, 54).

Reference

  • Charles S. Peirce (1902), “Parts of Carnegie Application” (L 75), published in Carolyn Eisele (ed., 1976), The New Elements of Mathematics by Charles S. Peirce, vol. 4, 13–73.  Online.

In the following passage Peirce explains what he means by calling logic “the quasi-necessary, or formal, doctrine of signs”.

Selection from C.S. Peirce, “Ground, Object, and Interpretant” (c. 1897)

Logic, in its general sense, is, as I believe I have shown, only another name for semiotic (σημειωτική), the quasi-necessary, or formal, doctrine of signs.  By describing the doctrine as “quasi-necessary”, or formal, I mean that we observe the characters of such signs as we know, and from such an observation, by a process which I will not object to naming Abstraction, we are led to statements, eminently fallible, and therefore in one sense by no means necessary, as to what must be the characters of all signs used by a “scientific” intelligence, that is to say, by an intelligence capable of learning by experience.  As to that process of abstraction, it is itself a sort of observation.

The faculty which I call abstractive observation is one which ordinary people perfectly recognize, but for which the theories of philosophers sometimes hardly leave room.  It is a familiar experience to every human being to wish for something quite beyond his present means, and to follow that wish by the question, “Should I wish for that thing just the same, if I had ample means to gratify it?”  To answer that question, he searches his heart, and in doing so makes what I term an abstractive observation.  He makes in his imagination a sort of skeleton diagram, or outline sketch, of himself, considers what modifications the hypothetical state of things would require to be made in that picture, and then examines it, that is, observes what he has imagined, to see whether the same ardent desire is there to be discerned.  By such a process, which is at bottom very much like mathematical reasoning, we can reach conclusions as to what would be true of signs in all cases, so long as the intelligence using them was scientific.

C.S. Peirce, Collected Papers, CP 2.227
From an unidentified fragment, c. 1897

Reference

  • Peirce, C.S., Collected Papers of Charles Sanders Peirce, vols. 1–6, Charles Hartshorne and Paul Weiss (eds.), vols. 7–8, Arthur W. Burks (ed.), Harvard University Press, Cambridge, MA, 1931–1935, 1958. Volume 2 : Elements of Logic, 1932.

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The Difference That Makes A Difference That Peirce Makes • 27

Re: Peirce List • John Sowa

It’s been my observation over many decades that people invoke the “ethics of terminology” mainly to inveigh against everyone’s innovations but their own, so these days I’ve shifted my attention to the “pragmatics of communication”, the critical case being communication across the boundaries and through the filters of diverse communities of usage.  In that spirit, I’ll copy here my last best attempt to construct a bridge between Peirce’s special sense of “formal” and the more generic construals we likely know.

The most general meaning of formal is concerned with form, but the Latin forma can mean beauty in addition to form, so perhaps a normative goodness of form enters at this root.

The Latin word norma literally means a carpenter’s square.  The Greek gnomon is a sundial pointer taking a similar form.  The most general meaning of normative is “having to do with what a person ought to do”, but a pragmatic interpretation of ethical imperatives tends to treat that as “having to do with what a person ought to do in order to achieve a given object”, so another formula might be “relating to the good that befits a being of our kind, and what must be done in order to bring that good into being, and how to tell the signs that show the way”.

Defining logic as formal or normative semiotic differentiates logic from other species of semiotic under the general theory of signs, leaving a niche open for descriptive semiotic, just to mention the obvious branch.  This brings us to the question:

How does a concern with form, or goodness of form, along with the question of what is required to achieve an object, modify our perspective on sign relations in a way that duly marks it as a logical point of view?

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The Difference That Makes A Difference That Peirce Makes • 26

Re: Peirce List • John Sowa

Questions about Peirce’s use of “formal” and “normative” in relation to logic and semiotic have arisen on the Peirce List once again, but I have to run off to another appointment, so for now I’ll just post a link to a relevant previous discussion.

In other recurring discussions, as far as my personal usage goes, I’ve always suggested there is a place for descriptive semiotics, whether of not that was Peirce’s way of drawing the distinctions.

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The Difference That Makes A Difference That Peirce Makes • 25

I’ve been detecting something approaching a mini-zeitgeist lately.  Ideas and issues popping up in recent discussions and readings keep reminding me of themes I first encountered in Peirce’s early work, especially the Lectures on the Logic of Science (1865–1866) and the Logic of Relatives (1870).  A number of Peirce’s potentially ground-breaking, paradigm-shifting ideas first saw the light of day in those early ventures.  I say “potentially” because what I regard as his most revolutionary ideas never saw their full development in Peirce’s lifetime, only to arise again in the press of mathematical and scientific advances later in the 20th Century.

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Peirce’s Categories • 12

Re: Peirce List • JFS • JBD

Different minds are drawn to Peirce for different reasons and they tend to discover different stores of value there.  I was attracted to his work largely for his insights into logic, math, and science and because his articulations of their springs and catches ring true to the ways their own practitioners understand them in practice.

One consequence is my tendency to approach the question of categories from a particular angle, more through the logic and mathematics of relations than by way of phenomenology.

What follows from that approach gives me sufficient reason to pursue it, but I’ll have to save further motivation until I develop more material from the 1870 Logic of Relatives.

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Peirce’s Categories • 11

Re: Peirce List • Helmut Raulien

There is a kind of “second cousin” kinship between category markers and grammatical aspects, moods, or tenses.  In several drafts of an earlier comment I experimented with grammatical terms like conjugation, declension, diacritic, inflection, etc.  to explain the function of category markers.  But I eventually decided this laid too much stress on their grammatical aspect and distracted from their main function, which is to focus the relation between formal expressions and formal objects.

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Peirce’s Categories • 10

Re: Cybernetics • Bernard Cohen

I began that note on the Precursors of Category Theory as a purely exploratory sketch, plotting a few points on a single theme with no plans of making an exhaustive survey.  Even at that I never got time to get back to it.  I put in a pin for Kant but haven’t had a chance to map out any passages.  There are even “incitements” going back to my earliest days reading Russell and wrestling with his take on type theory but those inklings are too hazy in my memory to make clear at present.

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Peirce’s Categories • 9

Re: FB | Systems Sciences • Kenneth Lloyd

Scanning the spectrum of sources I sampled in my Precursors of Category Theory, there are many differences in the categorical paradigms different observers developed over the centuries.  Just for starters, the numbers of categories vary widely from system to system.  But there is a conceptual continuity in the function category markers perform in every system.  If we look to the role a category marker plays in the relation between formal expressions and their formal objects, in effect, if we look at the matter from a semiotic perspective, as Aristotle already did, then we see the job of a category marker is to reduce (“drive down”) the ambiguity of equivocal linguistic expressions to the point where they obey the laws of logic.

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Peirce’s Categories • 8

Re: Peirce Society Facebook Page • Ricardo Bibi Tamtam Durski

The best way to get clear about Peirce’s categories is to look to their origin in Aristotle’s concept of a category, in effect nothing more mysterious than a grammatical device for reducing the ambiguities of equivocal terms.  We find Peirce starting out this way in his classification of logical terms, for instance, here —

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Ontologies As Systems • Comment 1

Re: Ontolog Forum • Joseph Simpson

The reason I’ve been maintaining an interdisciplinary perspective in my postings to the Ontolog Forum, Structural Modeling, and Systems Science groups is because each one stresses a distinct but necessary aspect of a systems approach to scientific inquiry.  I see much potential to be had in integrating these views of the inquiry process, but it will take a lot more thought and work to fully develop that potential.

The feature that jumps out at me as I scan the discussions on this thread — and I’ve said this before about most of the discussions of systems I’ve seen in these groups — is the static nature of the pictures of systems people are laying out.  Whereas, for me, my whole reason for taking up a systems approach to inference, information, inquiry, along with the symbol systems we use to conduct their transactions, is to tease out the shape and flow and dynamics of their transformations.

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